Furler/Anchor Shank close neighbors

[Shane anthony]

Finally got to the point I could raise the mast for the first time this weekend. Pretty exciting and a little nerve racking, but everything went good. I noticed when I hooked up the forstay that the furler was right against the anchor shank. The bracket for the forstay has two holes but I hooked it up on the hole furthest away from the anchor. Was wondering if I was doing something wrong as this was how it was set up from the PO. I could tie a rope to the shank and pull it a bit starboard and make room but again maybe I’m missing something simple? My next step is making sure the stays have the proper tensions. The shrouds seem maybe on the tight side but I’m guessing really. I’ll be reading posts on how to adjust everything. Thanks in advance for any thoughts and I’m real appreciative of this forum and everyone. Makes learning all new stuff a lot easier and way more enjoyable.

[Russ]

Congrats on getting her rigged.

I'm not familiar with that furler style. Does the metal outside rotate?

It looks okay to me. It appears the furler metal shell has some scratches from previous abrasions with the anchor.
Unless the anchor is preventing it from rotating, I wouldn't worry about it.

[Shane anthony]

Congrats on getting her rigged.

I'm not familiar with that furler style. Does the metal outside rotate?

It looks okay to me. It appears the furler metal shell has some scratches from previous abrasions with the anchor.
Unless the anchor is preventing it from rotating, I wouldn't worry about it.

It doesn’t rotate but just looked wrong but yes it should be no problem to keep them from banging into each other. Thanks

[NiceAft]

That looks like a CDI furler? Indeed, the metal shell does not rotate. Being that close will not matter. Does the proximity of the two interfere with you attaching the forestry? If not, your fine.

[rsvpasap]

I have a 35 lb Mantus M1 and a CDI FF2 on a 2002 26X. When I encountered the issue you're describing, I added a one and on-half inch twisted shackle between the tang and the furler. Before doing this, I had a very helpful telephone consultation with Todd at Blue Water Yachts concerning whether this was a prudent thing to do. He thought it was totally fine. My boat has been set up like this for at least five years and in the interim, I've raised the anchor by hand, like, I don't even know, definitely more than a hundred times. I am underway very frequently in a wide range of conditions year-round in the Puget Sound and BC Gulf Islands and there have been no problems.

[NiceAft]

Good photos. Well documented.

[Russ]

I have a 35 lb Mantus M1 and a CDI FF2 on a 2002 26X.

Great info.

I notice many boats in Puget Sound with radar including smaller boats like ours.

How/why do you use the radar and can you view it from the helm?

[rsvpasap]

The radar outputs as an overlay on the screen of the multifunction display (MFD) at the helm. I'm actually ambivalent about radar. On those occasions when I've actually genuinely needed it, truly depended upon it, I probably should not have been underway. There was one occasion, even with radar, when I turned around and went back to anchor because I could not see more than two boat lengths in front of me (during morning daylight hours). Also, we have a lot of debris (trees, logs the size of telephone poles, actual electric poles, wooden pilings, "deadheads") in the water after very heavy rains or very high tides, especially in the more remote spots. Being underway at night or a low light conditions under those circumstances without radar is risky and the assistance radar provides in identifying these things is intermittent.

On the other hand, in the larger channels there are many container ships, a surprising number of cruise ships and a lot of fog, even in the autumn and spring. Radar is good at spotting other boats underway around you, large and small, as well as helping navigate narrow channels or islands you're not familiar with.

Which is to say ... radar is great, especially in low light conditions, but I personally would never 100% depend upon it.

In my opinion, in Puget Sound and the Gulf Islands, the best mods for navigation and safety are, in order,

(1) VHF with a mast-top antenna and a depth sounder.
(2) Some kind of electronic map with detailed depth information, even if it's just navionics on your phone.
(3) AIS
(4) An autopilot.
(5) A multifunction display.
(6) Radar.

I have the radar on the mast only October through April, I rarely use it in the summer. The dome is stored in the boat and the mount is only about 7 ft off the deck, so I can just stick it on the mast if circumstances require.

[NiceAft]

That photo is nasty. Reminds me of boating on the Delaware River after a rain storm.

[Starscream]

I have a 35 lb Mantus M1 and a CDI FF2 on a 2002 26X.

Wow that's quite an anchor! I had a conversation with Mantus about anchoring in the Bahamas with possible 35 knot winds, and the recommendation was a 17 lb-er.

The stock anchor roller on the 26X is a bit of a joke, and I've never felt like doing the surgery required to replace it with a real one, so my solution is a 3" PVC pipe clamped on the bow rail. Can't deploy it from the cockpit though.

[Russ]

The radar outputs as an overlay on the screen of the multifunction display (MFD) at the helm.

Thanks for the explanation. I see many boats in Puget Sound with radar and I assumed fox and such must be common.

Last time I was in Puget Sound (Camano Island) we went to the beach and saw thousands of washed up logs and such. My thought was these things floated here and boats have to avoid them.

[kurz]

Concerning the space for the Anchor
I think, the drum of the CDI furler sits too low.
I am lucky, my Jambo anchor sits just well queezed there.

But every time I use the anchor I have to be very concentrate not to smashe against the furler drum

it ist what it is... I I cuold I would mount the furler drum 1cm higher...