MacGregors/Mach28 Down-Under

[Phillip]

Thanks for your comments Lease. I will chew them over.

I am pretty interested in your Mach28 Peter HK.

I took at look at the sites on the Mach28.

Are you aware the agents name for Mach28 is(Phillip King) and business name (Synergy Yachts): is, I feel, may be the same Phillip King of Synergy Yachts that were the agents for/selling MacGregors in Australia a year or so back.
I mean, good on him, I have no complaints. A good businessman needs more than one brand.
I got a price from him then and to get a new 26M fitted up was Aud$65-70,000 (US$48-52,000).
I felt that a little expensive, but when comparing it to the Mach28 now, then there is not a lot of difference in money, but a big difference in boats.
I can understand why you went the Mach28 way Peter.

To Lease.
I have understood what you said.
In your research, did you contempate going to the Dealer (is it Boats 4 Sale Wi) on this site who sells a base boat for US$19,000 (Aud$25,000), or even having him upgrade it to say US$25,000 (Aud$33,000) worth and have him send it to a shipping agent?
If I allowed anotherAud$20,000 (US$15,000) for shipping etc, that would total Aud$53,000 (US$40,000).
So if Phillip King was selling them Aud$65-70,000, and I could get one in for Aud$53,000, then I feel it worth the trouble.
Money is tight at the moment hence the penny saving.

What are your comments here Lease.

If I can add one comment here about MacGregor, they need an agent in Queensland. When I delt with Phillip King, he was great and did what I asked of him, but he is in Sydney, and that shows: there a few MacGregors up here.

Peter, I am at Morayfield, and boat out of Spinnaker Sounds at bribie Isl.

Cheers
Phillip

[LOUIS B HOLUB]

My former boat, a Mac 26S, was sold to a family in the Country of Chili. It was too expensive to purchase a boat in Chili. They saved money by flying to the USA, and shipping the boat to CHILI through local Ports in Galveston, Texas. It worked out great. A local MacGregor dealer, Sailventure, Inc., helped them with no problems.

Happy Sailing...

[deacm]

I'm from the States, but just returned from Australia and of course wanted to see the Mach 28 while I was there. The owner of Synergy Yachts (the manufacturer) spent an afternoon with me and I was VERY impressed with the boat. It's large inside and outfitted with ALOT more options than the Mac 26x and sails faster and the quality is excellent. Having owned a Mac 26x and now owning an Odin 820 (Mast 28, the Euro Mac) am I the only one in the world now who has seen all THREE boats in person? Gee, did I spend my 15 minutes of fame to quickly? There IS a DVD available in prototype form on the Aussie Mach 28. It ends up being about the same cost as the Odin 820 (Mast 28). The difference seems to be that the Mach 28 pays more attention to sailing ability and the Odin to furnishing down below. BOth I think are well worth the step up in price.

[Terry]

deacm:
Here is an excuse to visit Britain http://www.tide28.com/
Yet another entry for MacGregor competition.
There are a few naysayers to upgrading, but I really don't see it as being any different from trading up to the Ford Expedition from the Ford Explorer or Chevy Blazer to Trailblazer. When a viable trade-up comes available I will seriously consider it. The Mach, Tide, Odin are abit out of price range due to currency exchange but if it was only a $10-15K increment after selling my Mac I would be very tempted. The Kiwi 28 may just be the answer when it comes to fruition. The Mach sounds tempting as an improved Sailer. I have the '03 Mac M and though I really enjoy it, I still find it lacking in sailing performance and creature comforts. For what it costs to bring it up to personal standards would be just as well spent on a compettitor. The upgrade I truly desire though is still a dream, can't afford it. A 28' upgrade is within the realm of reality so I will be watching.

[Peter HK]

Phillip

Phil King from Synergy yachts commissioned the design for the Mach28. As the importer for the Mac26, he had a number of owners wanting a bigger boat. I believe he is also commissioning a smaller version- the Mach22 for those who just want a daysailor.

Certainly, for the price difference here and the better quality of construction, the Mach28 is a viable alternative.

If you want to have a look at a Mach28, the factory is at Burleigh so only a couple of hours drive. Mark Mackman will show you over one if you ring and arrange a time.

Mine is on the trailer at RQYS Manly- by all means I can show you over it if you want to have a look.

Peter HK

[Lease]

I don't know that the comparison that you've done is valid in terms of value Phillip.

Certainly, you could import a new boat for around the dollars you are talking but you will still need to spend a lot of money getting it to a cruising proposition. The acquisition price should be kept to the lower figure, because if you are going to toss away warranties, then the one you don't want to forgo is the engine. Better to buy that here as there isn't a price difference in real terms. But you will still need to kit it out and I can't see that happenning for under $60k. A saving for sure, but it has to be weighed against the negatives of watrranty, etc.

I was more talking about the used boat situation. My boat came with a 50hp Tohatsu (that magically, after ten years still has factory compressions on all cylinders), VHF, Fishfinder/Sounder, Compass, Autopilot, Stereo with inside and outside speakers, floor lighting in cockpit and cabin, big capacity dunny that doesn't involve squatting, Garmin GPS Map with cockpit repeater, Seatalk Log, Depth, Wind, and GPS repeater. The GPS is a bit old and finding Aussie charts for it is proving a challenge, but even with that, there is around $15k, or more of replacement cost in all of that.

All I have had to do is use some elbow grease to bring the gelcoat back up and replace the cushions (which were undertaking some sort of unauthorised bilogical experiment) with new foam.

So my point is that if you can get someone to locate say, a five-year-old boat in California (closest for shipping), that is stocked with gear for under US$25k, THEN you will be in bargain territory when you get it landed in Oz.

As for the discussion regarding Mach28 v Mac26M - They are really very different boats. The former has a bit of real beam (all states in Oz allow towing of boats with 2.4m -8'- beam without a permit), and overall much greater volume. I guess it all depends on how big you want to get.

So far, I'm still pretty comfortable with the size of the 26X. After years of TS16s and later, the Trailertri, it is a veritable palace.

[Idle Time]

http://www.mackmanboats.com.au/ here is a link to the Mach 28

[Phillip]

Lease.
Thanks for your comment. I consider everything.
This is the site I go to for MacGregors for sale, plus of course the one associated with this site. Are there any others you have used, that you could refer me too?

http://www.sailboatowners.com/classifie ... tpl?fno=80

There seems to be some reasonably priced boats about.


Peter.
I am going to think seriously about the Mach28 before I ask to see yours or ring the factory down the coast.
I don't wish to waste peoples time till I have a definite "plan"so to speak. Economics is a factor for me too. I could afford the Mach28, but if the 2nd hand MacGregor meets my needs for half the price, then that is a pretty serious consideration for me.

Is there anyone on this site that has imported a MacGregor into Aussieland?

I have no apprehensions with importing. As a young guy I bought in a Citron ID21 Pallas, then latter a 350SEL, and I have to bring in the occasional bits of 'gear' for my business, so it is not difficult.

Making the decision is the hardest bit

Thanks.
Cheers
Phillip

[AWKIII]

Phillip:

Send me a private message.

I will be more than happy to assist you in getting the boat you need.

Can have the boat loaded on a container here in Colorado and shipped to Los Angeles. Boat would then be shipped to Sydney? and away you go.

AWKIII

[Lease]

Except that from the sound of things, he's a couple of thousand miles from Sydney.

Phillip, here is a link to HJ Yachts, who will either import to your spec, or you can take one of theirs off the shelf. They have some good stock right now in fact. Worth a look.

[AWKIII]

Lease:

You didn't post the link.

[Lease]

Damn infernal machines!

They'll never catch on you know.................................


http://hjyachts.com.au/

[Phillip]

Thanks Lease. Will contact them and check out everything. They seem more realisticlly priced.
Actually, although we are a distance from Syndey, trucking boats up is not too expensive. I trucked up my current Whittley Impala for $1,100 plus crane hire this end. So as long as the total price is right, then OK.

AKWIII...to send you a personal message, do I click on those "2x little people and PM" in the box at the bottom of the post and enter and send my message that way, or do I put up my e-mail address somewhere else?
I wouldn't mind talking with you over this matter.

Cheers
Phillip

[kmclemore]

AKWIII...to send you a personal message, do I click on those "2x little people and PM" in the box at the bottom of the post and enter and send my message that way, or do I put up my e-mail address somewhere else?
I wouldn't mind talking with you over this matter.

Cheers
Phillip

As he's not answered, I will.. yes, the PM symbol is for Personal Message. Click and it goes to a page where you can compose one to the author of the post in which you clicked it.

[Phillip]

Thank you very much kmclemore.
I will do that.
Cheers
Phillip