Spinnaker Usage

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Tripp Gal
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Post by Tripp Gal »

Well let's just say it's more than I like spending, and I just had to buy a new main, Light #1, and Med/Heavy #1. *Shudder*

It's a great fun ride, and if you are back on runners, I usually hand over the helm to whoever is back there when I start becoming interested insomething else. :)
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Post by Frank C »

Nice boat - & quite a hi-tech looking boom, TG! Mainsail has that mylar, tape-drive look?

Plumb bow, aft extended for longer waterline ... sound like Bob Perry yet? Not single-handing very often, I'd bet . . . usually w/ 6 or 7 crew, one forward?
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Frank C wrote:Nice boat - & quite a hi-tech looking boom, TG! Mainsail has that mylar, tape-drive look?

Plumb bow, aft extended for longer waterline ... sound like Bob Perry yet? Not single-handing very often, I'd bet . . . usually w/ 6 or 7 crew, one forward?
The boom is kinda neat looking isn't it?

The main is what the new Quantum Membrane sails look like. We ordered a paneled one back at christmas, but the Quantum team wanted to see membrane on the boat instead. We became a pre-production guinea pig with a few other folks here in the US. It's mainly carbon, with a bit of aramid thrown in for strength/flex balance. The new load stripe pattern doesn't shift shape at all. We had 3DL's, but just weren't happy with them.

We double-hand Non-flying sails, can run flying sails with a team of 6-7 experienced crew (lots of work and chaos), but we run with 10-13. Buoy racing NEEDS 13.
Positions we man (some are dual duty):
Runner1/Tactician
Runner2/Navigator
Helm
Main Lead
Main Assist
Jib Lead/ Guy Trim
Jib Assist/ Spin Assist
Mast Lead
Mast Assist/Spin Trim
Crew Boss
Pit
Bow
Floater

If we go to Victoria Canada for the women's keelboat championship we will need 15 of us.
Frank C

Post by Frank C »

Tripp Gal wrote: . . . The main is what the new Quantum Membrane sails look like. We ordered a paneled one back at christmas, but the Quantum team wanted to see membrane on the boat instead. We became a pre-production guinea pig . . . We had 3DL's, but just weren't happy with them.
Whoa! Tough to sell that 3DL on eBay, huh? :D

Tripp Gal wrote: . . . We double-hand Non-flying sails, can run flying sails with a team of 6-7 experienced crew (lots of work and chaos), but we run with 10-13. Buoy racing NEEDS 13.

Awwwwshum! You'd capsize a Mac fer shure!
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Post by Tripp Gal »

You're telling me it's hard to sell and find used sails for this boat. We do frequent Bacon and Assoc. and Atlantic sail traders to see what shows up. We can get spinnakers off of a Ross 45 and a few others. our windseeker light air jib came is circa 1978 from a S&S cruiser. That sail (though old and ugly) has actually been the key to our winning several races up here.

I'm thinking that 13 may indeed capsize your Mac, but then again you don't have quite the sail area or deck that we do. :D One of the new guys was talking about the sail area and then commented that the sail area sans the spinnaker is bigger than his house. Then we started comparing and realized that the main alone has more sq. footage than our first apartment. 850sq. feet. Geez. I miss the days of my smaller boats. When we used to break things, it woud cost a hundred dollars. now it's like a thousand.
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Schock Therapy
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Post by Schock Therapy »

When we used to break things, it woud cost a hundred dollars. now it's like a thousand.

I was racing on a Davidson 40 years ago, before I was a boat owner myself. After the race we were cleaning up while sailing back under main, and one of the guys had coiled up the kevlar sheets and guys, and had them stacked neatly on the cabin top. A gust hit, the boat heeled and they ALL went overboard and straight to the bottom! The skipper didn't say a word, he just cringed. I didn't realize it at the time, but that must have been over $1000 worth of gear! It was just a pile of rope! (and some very pricey shackles!)

our windseeker light air jib came is circa 1978 from a S&S cruiser. That sail (though old and ugly) has actually been the key to our winning several races up here.


Gotta love the windseeker! And they are the one sail in the inventory that will never wear out! Who cares if it's ugly if it gets you out of a hole first!

We became a pre-production guinea pig with a few other folks here in the US. It's mainly carbon, with a bit of aramid thrown in for strength/flex balance. The new load stripe pattern doesn't shift shape at all. We had 3DL's, but just weren't happy with them.


It will be interesting so see how the new Q wears compared with the 3DL. I campaigned on a couple of boats with 3DLs when they first came out. They were gorgeous when they were new, but they didn't stay new for long! Eventually they delaminated pretty badly. Honestly I don't know why people bother with moulded sails on smaller phrf boats. Sure, they have cool-factor and some weight saving, but I'm not convinced they are any faster than a well built stitched sail, and they are much harder to repair!
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