Stay Adjusting Tool

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Stay Adjusting Tool

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How do I use the stay adjusting tool that came with my :macm: ? It is an aluminium tube with two machine screws mounted at one end.

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One screw goes into the chain plate you are NOT adjusting and is used as a leverage point for the other, which obviously has into the plate above the lower half of the adjuster, so you can tension and pin it.
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Thanks - makes sense.
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I never knew what that was when I found it inside my delivered boat. Did I miss something in the manual somewhere? I thought it was some spare hardware courtesy of Roger and his benificence....

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Crikey wrote:I never knew what that was when I found it inside my delivered boat. Did I miss something in the manual somewhere? I thought it was some spare hardware courtesy of Roger and his benificence....

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I thought it was a spare table seat back post :P
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Hmmm. I used it around the middle of the shroud (or at a comfortable height standing on the deck) to apply tension while adjusting the mating shroud, which is what I guessed it was for. :)

I also did it on the water, so reaching down to the chain plate/ adjusters might be more awkward unless you're on the hard. (?) The Admiral actually used it while I moved the pins.

I have made a very simple small levered tool to accomplish this same task (hopefully more easily, on the water, and without a helper) but haven't had a chance to test it out yet. :|

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i knew it was for tightening the shrouds but didnt know how to use it, both ways make sense in a given situation, when i e-mailed the factory i was told to read the manual. i still cant find how to use it in there. thats why i turn to the folks on this forum thanks
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Hey Chautauqua! :D

Great that the search function worked for you, and I commend you for using it. And for reading the manual. I don't recall that I found it in there either.

Could that be Chautauqua as in a beautiful place in western New York?

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Wait a second.......you mean there is a tool for this!
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It’s just a tool that twists one shroud (eg port cap shroud) to shorten it to take the tension off the other shroud (eg the port baby stay or lower shroud) so that adjustments in length (= tension) can be made to them.

Make one (in your head?) from a 16” length of wooden hockey stick handle. Drive a 1 -1/4” long masonry nail on the flat side 1” from one end, then a second one 4 or 5 “ along from the same end. Let the nail heads stick out ½” or so. Drill pilot holes for the nails, or use ¼” bolts and nuts instead of the nails.

All dimensions, materials, and methods are approximate, pulled them out of my head, maybe someone can post the exact dimensions if they have one and measure it.

Hook the nail heads over the shroud and twist to de-tension for adjusting the other shroud. If you want to get fancy, it’s easier to single hand if you have a hook or catch at the handle end that you can hook over the shroud to hold it while you make your adjustments.

Assuming this technique is appropriate for whatever rigging your “S” might have. :wink:

Its configuration and working principles are similar to that of a Loos gauge, except it doesn’t measure anything. If you’re wondering ’bout that, see this video…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BvbA8AvHiE

At 3:00 the two white rollers represent the two nails in your hockey stick device.

Clear as mud? :cry:
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yes Brian, that is a reference to many things that came together. the western town in new york has art and music and lecture forums. i live in st augustine beach florida where people from that community travelled and set up camps to replicate some of the activities in new york. the business i own is in the chautauqua beach subdivision of st augustine beach. the intent of buying my boat was to spend time with my childeren and enjoying art and music and nature and learning about the natural world. i am from upstate new york where my ancestors can be traced back to the iraqua nation including the onandaga tribe. long story short the name of my boat was always part of me. it just took the right vessel to bring it out.
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I'm honorary Tuscorora Indian.... :D ....I grew up 6 feet from the Tuscorora Nation of new, of course all of us in NY grew up on legacy Native American or Ongwayoway lands (sp?)

I spent the summers of my youth roaming the lush forests of the reservation with friends living out wars, peace, and who remembers what....12 years of Huck Finn Youth...no dead cats though.....

When I left we endowed a full scholarship for a Tuscorora student to attend college ....trying to pay a little back....
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