Flag Mounting

[Azzarac]

I am curious if anyone here flies a flag(s) off their shrouds and if so, how do you have them attached. I have one flag I wish to fly while sailing but don't want to take the time to mount a proper flag halyard since I take the mast down after each sail. I bought a pair of spring loaded flag clips supposedly used on shrouds, however they are way too small to go around the shroud as the diagram shows. Everything else I have found is meant to attach to a pole. Maybe nylon wire ties will work...

I appreciate any suggestions!

[dlandersson]

I do....look nice and make a nice wind indicator.

I clip them to the starboard line - purchased the clips at west marine.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... Jv5M2esFmI

I am curious if anyone here flies a flag(s) off their shrouds and if so, how do you have them attached. I have one flag I wish to fly while sailing but don't want to take the time to mount a proper flag halyard since I take the mast down after each sail. I bought a pair of spring loaded flag clips supposedly used on shrouds, however they are way too small to go around the shroud as the diagram shows. Everything else I have found is meant to attach to a pole. Maybe nylon wire ties will work...

I appreciate any suggestions!

[K9Kampers]

Azz- The clips of which you speak come in at least two sizes, I bought the wrong size at first because it was a clearance item, then I bought the correct size. Be careful with these flag clips, as I have found them to wear a groove into the shroud wire. Until I install a proper flag halyard, I've been flying my flags / pennants from a different clip attached to the backstay.

Nylon ties would work, just wrap a piece elec or duct tape around the shroud to keep the flag from sinking if the nylon tie wants to slide down.

[Azzarac]

Thanks for the ideas guys. I knew they came in two sizes and I ordered the larger ones (not sure that's what I received lol). e WM link looks like they have three sizes though so I may try those. It also gave me the idea to use the ones I have along with the wire ties like they show in the picture. That should eleminate any wear on the shroud also. Now I have something to keep me busy this afternoon.

[Highlander]

Beene & I fly ours off our boom topping lift



http://s844.photobucket.com/albums/ab1/ ... 010059.mp4

J

[Russ]

Gotta ask what "flag" are ya flying? There is etiquette for flying flags and I'm a traditionalist about this stuff.

http://www.sailonline.com/seamanship/ge ... -etiquette

Boats should fly the National Flag. Most pleasure boats in US waters have a choice of 2.

The yacht ensign, with its fouled anchor over a circle of 13 stars, the "Betsy Ross" flag. Originally restricted to documented vessels only, it is now commonly flown on recreational boats of all types and sizes instead of the National Flag (see picture).

The 50-star flag "Old Glory" you are familiar with.
Boats today fly the ensign from the stern, which provides the best visibility, but it can also be flown from the leech of the most aftersail. When flown from the stern, it should be on a staff (pole) that is sufficiently long and angled, and that is offset to one side (traditionally the starboard side), so the flag flies clear of engine exhaust and rigging.


So I fly mine on the "leech" of my main off the topping lift. Canucks seem to do it also (see above).

[fishheadbarandgrill]

I used this mod for my pennants --http://www.macgregorsailors.com/modt/in ... ?view=1494

I used this flag staff with rail mount from West Marine for the Ensign -- http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... JxvBY5BDG4

Here's a pic showing the configurations.




Bob

[boaterjen]

Easy? Quick? Inexpensive? Fast?

Set glass of wine down. Tell Sondra Bullock to wait a sec. Take a thin line. Stand on deck. Lash self to mast like Kirk Douglas. Toss one end of line over spreader. Hook ensign or other flags to line. Hoist it up. Tie both ends to cleat. Go back to Sandra.

[Catigale]

[Captain Kimo]

Two quick solutions:

Ensign with pole placed in mast crutch holder of 96'

Port flag hoist: Attached a Home Depot SS sping link to spreader with attached small block. Reeve small line through. Currently tieing sailing club burgees to hoist. Starboad hoist not installed and reserved for visiting couintries national courtesy flag . Only sail Lake Mead so not necessary,yet.

[Azzarac]

Hi Russ,

I too am a traditionalist when it comes to flag etiquette. I have my Old Glory ensign on the stern but have been wanting to fly a flag I picked up while in the Fla. Keys last spring off the starboard shroud. It seems to be a great conversation started around here and adds a nice splash of color to all that white!



BTW, I like the topping lift idea however I use lazyjacks so that won't work for us.

[Russ]

Do you know about the Ancient Order of Turtles? We used to see these flags years ago at our marina.

The Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles started as an informal "drinking club" between World War II pilots, self-described as "an honorable drinking fraternity composed of ladies and gentlemen of the highest morals and good character, who are never vulgar."
To gain admission, one must answer four from a list of about twenty-five qualifying questions. Each question suggests a vulgar, lewd, or salacious answer, but the actual correct answer is rather innocuous. Once inducted, a member must reply to the question, "Are you a turtle?" with "You bet your sweet ass I am". Otherwise, the member must buy the questioner a drink. It is assumed that all prospective turtles own a diabetic donkey, or one of a sweet and kindly disposition, which is the reason for this password. If the member is unable or unwilling (perhaps because of the restriction on vulgarity) to provide the correct answer, he or she owes to each other turtle present a drink of the recipient's choice.

A large part of the tradition of the order involves the qualifying questions that prospective members have to answer. These fun questions are actually small riddles: Each of them suggests a vulgar or lewd answer, however the candidate has to provide a completely innocuous answer to the same question.
A popular example would be the question:
“What does a woman do sitting down, that a dog does on three legs, and a man does standing up?”
The obvious answer to this question would be "pee" or "urinate", but the correct answer to is "shake hands" (as western etiquette demands that a man needs to rise from his seat to shake hands, while a woman needs not).
What does a cow have four of and woman only two?
What is a four letter word ending in K that means to have intercourse?
What is it on a man that is round, hard, and sticks so far out his pajamas that you can hang a hat on it?

President Kennedy was allegedly asked if he was a Turtle at a press conference, to which he replied, "I'll buy you your drink later"

[voltzwgn]

So then one could be a shellback and a turtle or one and not the other or neither.

[mastreb]

^^^^ Honorable Shellback and member of the Order of the Golden Dragon.

[Catigale]

The Admiral passed with flying colours, while I owe her a drink.....