Is this a MacGregor/Venture ?

[W3KI]

Good morning, I am a new poster.

These are pics I took of a boat for sale around my neighborhood. (The pics are on my FB page)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

I thought it was a Mac/Venture but the HID starts with OHZ (Ohio Homemade Boat, apparently manufactured in March 1970), not the MAC i expected. From the internet searches I did it seems the OHZ company went defunct years ago and the hull number on this boat was missing from the "Recall Notices" page I found. I am prepared to offer the seller about $150 for the boat and trailer. (A) The boat has no information on it whatsoever, (B) The seller gets custody of abandoned property or barters for various items in return for clearing land, etc, so I expect there are titling issues to be dealt with, (C) the boat sat for sale part of last year and all this season, (D) I am familiar with the extended family who I know wants the boat gone. (Its a small town story.)

I am not intimidated by fiberglass and wood repairs. I imagine it needs sails that have been furled around the boom, probably since Gandolph was young, and a thorough cleaning. And all that is in addition to dropping the keel and replacing the wood from the rudder that has rotted. I left a note on the boat asking about titling and an appointment to see the interior. If nothing else, if I can get the trailer that would open up a new world of potential boats for sale in the area that are nice but "No Trailer Included".

My question for the Macgregor Brain Trust;

What is this thing? Is it a Macgregor knock off? I don't think so, but if so, I've totally missed any references to MAC selling hulls to third party builders...

[topcat0399]

Looks like a Venture 222 to me.


Fix 'er up!

[npsrangerchuck]

The forward lexan "window" looks like a mod but that flat foredeck and those scuppers definitely look like I remember from my old '71 Venture 22.

[W3KI]

Good Afternoon,

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

Here are some more pics of the (questionable) boat in question. I also included several shots of where the tabernacle meets the topside of the boat. The mast has been left unsupported along the length of the boat and, as you can see, the weight of the mast as caused a crack. I checked inside the boat and there doesn't seem to be a backing plate of any kind, nor a stanchion of any sort transferring the weight into the hull.

I compared the pics here with those of a 1970-ish Venture 24 and the main difference I see is the keel crank on the Ventures is on the outside of the companionway and the one of this boat is on the inside.

My wife and I measured the boat and it is between 25-26 feet. So, I gather it is not a Mac/Venture 22. There is also the OHZ HID stamp that has me somewhat flummoxed...

Any other ideas about pedigree or is it just a mutt? Also I solicit the group's comments on how difficult it would be to fix that area around the tabernacle.

Thank you...

[Steven James]

Could be they didnt have a title and at some time and they applied for one .Ive got a V.W. powered kit car that was professionally built.and they had put an i.d. tag on the dash under the windshield .to make it legal .mine starts out FLA.then the number. so a title could be issued .hope that was some help. Looks like yours is a venture .Ive got a 1972 2-24 .only dif.between the 24 and 2-24 the 2-24 has a pop top .Ive got hull number 4.Hope I was able to help .yes you can repair the tab. I put an aluminium plate under mine then go in the cabin and put a piece of 3/4 marine plywood on the inside and fashion a leg to stiffen everything up .

[Freedom77]

V-22 didn't have as large a window in foreward facing deck. Also didn't have recessed for deck. Kinda looks like a 22 but not quite. Could be a knock off? Any identifying markers that say MAC....... anywhere? Should have ID# stamped on port rear side. We had a '72 and I looked at some pics of ours. Doesn't look quite the same. If it 25-26 ft. then I know it is not a 22. Crank for keel on 22 was inside cabin. Fair Winds and Full Sails. Old Salt...

[W3KI]

Funny you should mention the position of the crank handle, Freedom, it may in fact be a Venture 22.

I need to go back and remeasure the boat since there was some post measurement disagreement between my first mate and I about how I came to my conclusion about the length of the boat.

To your point about the position of the crank handle, in the cockpit there is a thru hull hole just aft of the companionway that looks like it would be the tunnel for the keel cable. The keel is retracted as the boat sits on the trailer but I could see thru the tunnel to the grass below. The crank set-up inside the boat does not appear to be a modification, unlike the remainder of the cabin...

I'm taking my time on this one because the owner said I am the only person that has shown any interest in the boat and although he says he has the titles for boat and trailer, he is still "looking for them".

Thanks for the help, everyone.

[sailboatmike]

I really wouldnt touch it with that crack around the mast foot, Im not sure if they are wood cored or solid glass but the chances are that lots of rain has got in that crack and damaged the area to the point of needing MAJOR repair from a professional boat builder. Further to this there is no compression post or additional support for the mast inside the cabin, thats a real worry

Last thing you want is for the mast to come crashing through the deck when your out in the boat, it really is a life threatening siuation

[W3KI]

Thanks SBMike,

Yes, I am giving this one a lot of thought and consideration. The best analogy I can give is that its like dating a girl when you really are eyeing her sister. The boat is on a trailer that actually has more value to me than the boat at this point. I have seen quite a few boats that are in good shape, but "no trailer with this boat", which knocks them off our candidate list. If I get this boat, there are enough winches and miscellaneous equipment inside the boat to make it a worthwhile purchase with a view towards using them as spare parts for something else.

As to the vessel's length issue, after careful analysis, we decided to use our reading glasses to get a better idea of what the tape measure was indicating. In doing so, we realized that the 1-9-7 we were reading was the length in inches; 16 ft, in other words, and then the length was an additional 6 ft beyond that, so 22 ft overall. So, for those who guessed it was a Venture 22, thank you. You were way ahead of me.

Thanks again.
W3KI

[Catigale]

Missed this thread

Worth the price just for the spares alone

THe OHB company is actually alive and well and has members in each county in the BUckeye State. That acronym is what your DMV used to denote title to a boat that has been rebuilt or retitled form salvage...or both, not a company name.

Did you go for it??